Glutathione molecule
Since 2004, Dr. Jill James, a University of Arkansas medical researcher, has been reporting about the differences in the levels and quality of an important compound, Glutathione, in typical children versus autistic individuals. Her research has led to various discoveries that are used today by many biomedical practitioners to assist ASD patients in their recovery.
Any parent who has attended an Autism Research Institute lecture or searched knowledgeable Internet sites has been exposed to a complicated diagram that depicts the metabolic pathway leading to GSH production. This is the basic information upon which DAN! doctors have been inspired to give safe, inexpensive and useful therapies such as methylcobolamine (B12), folic acid, methionine, S-adenosylmethionine (SAMe), DMG, TMG and cysteine (which all lead to an increase in glutathione levels), in order to lessen the effects of oxidation (think RUST) and promote healthy growth of new tissue in the gut and brain.
This post is about oral glutathione for autism, and what I wish to say is… the stuff really works! When I started including glutathione therapy in my practice, I really began to understand that many of the symptoms of the disease that we call autism (’cause today’s epidemic ain’t your grandfather’s autism) can, indeed, respond to simple, cheap, safe interventions. In fact, when our first patients began to demonstrate an increase in verbal activity, I asked the staff to stop saying “That’s amazing!” and start saying “I told you!” (which instills greater confidence, don’t you think?)
T=typical response
The Good – it’s inexpensive, and only needs to be given orally. There are some practitioners who assert that the oral preparations are quickly broken down after ingestion. I’m not sure about that, but I have absolute proof that ‘good’ levels of GSH are increasing. I call it the AT autism test: “A” – for autism and “T” – for typical. When a neurotypical patient is lifted by the elbows, they resist the pull and so appear as a “T” (as in an ‘iron cross’ position). Autistic patients who haven’t enough glutathione do not resist the pull and so they form the letter “A” when tested in this manner. Perhaps the oral preparation simply supplies the building blocks of GSH, but, within weeks of instituting this treatment, a change will take place in the child so that the ‘AT test’ goes to typical. That observation is 99% sure in my practice. I’m not certain whether the increase in core tone affects the vocal cords, or it is merely a marker of increased neuronal activity. Importantly, within weeks of an increase in this reflex, there will be some qualitative or quantitative change in speech and language.Autistic response
A= Low tone response
The Bad – The side effect of energy is… energy! This is why my practice suggests a slowly increasing volume to help the patients adjust the dose as necessary. I usually initiate therapy with 100mg once a day and gradually increase volume and frequency. Additionally, there is a fair amount of web advice that the oral versions of the product promote yeast growth. It is for this reason that I test for yeast early and try to get any G-I problems under control before starting such intervention.
The Ugly – The oral liquid form of the product really STINKS. That is because of a sulfur molecule that is a attached to this unusual anti-oxidant. One of our parents even brought the bottle back because they thought it was “spoiled”. Fortunately, it doesn’t taste as rank as it smells, however. While there are other forms of this substance, I do not find them to be practical (intravenous), equally as effective (creams) or easily tolerated (nebulized and inhaled, or rectal suppositories). The staff at The Child Development Center has been able to devise various methods to mix, hide, and otherwise sneak the potion into our unsuspecting (but very clever) patients.
Don’t try this at home. Just because a supplement is available without a prescription does not mean that it is non-toxic or appropriate for your affected child. Many times, I will address other symptoms (gut or behavior) before giving this valuable intervention. I am aware of its strengths, weaknesses, pitfalls and side effects. As in all things autistic, I advise getting professional diagnosis and treatment in order to obtain optimal results for your child.
Love it! Great article.
Every single time we slow down on glutathione we see the difference…it is just as important for these kids as a good probitic!
“methylcobolamine (B12), folic acid, methionine, S-adenosylmethionine (SAMe), DMG, TMG and cysteine”
Well, as you know Doc, our son is on several of these including oral glutathione, M-B12, and Methylaid. What contributing factors enter into your decision to add the others like SAMe, DMG or cysteine? Also, what are your thoughts on NAC, and its possible beneficial effect(s)?
Thanks, Joe
in my opinion, the taste is even more rank then the smell. indigestion burps that could almost see in a fog, horrible.. so hard for my little one to get down as he protests. he knows whatever it is in. May I ask others what apporach you use to “get it down”?
About 1/200 patients can’t take it. That is unfortunate. Yes, we have access to some other protocols that have worked.
What are your thoughts on supplements that increase glutathione production in the body, such as MaxGXL?
I have not had as much success from GSH supplements, as from the GSH itself. That is, I am looking for actual changes in the physical examination, speech&language, eye contact, and core tone improvements that aren’t that easily seen. So, although other supplements probably help (TMG, DMG, NAC) I just haven’t been able to measure the change so clearly.
Greeting. Is there a possibility of doing a virtual consultation. The patient is not able to travel to US at this moment but we could send any tests needed.
Thanks in advance
Hello,
All patients should be thoroughly evaluated in person. To the extent the this can be accomplished, the family, the child, and the doctor will probably do a more effective job. After an in-person visit, virtual is ok.
We have noted thyroid, neurological, genetic, inflammatory and other conditions by performing a complete, in person history, physical examination, and staff evaluation.
Considering gluatathione cannot bypass the blood brain barrier, have you found that giving the components that increase glutathione would be more effective than administering glutathione directly? You mentioned several (DMG, TMG etc) above, but your recommendation is not clear. Thanks!
I’m not sure that the gsh HAS to cross. Maybe if the peripheral inflammation is addressed that is enough to help in the CNS. Also, I’m not sure why the preparations that I utilize work so well, they just do. Within weeks, there is a difference in the core tone, and usually improvements in speech/cognition follow. I don’t see the extra help that glutathione precursors address, although a recent study which was presented at the SFARI conference did, indeed show improvement with NAC (cysteine). Bottom line – the liposomal gsh works on my patients so I stick with that.
Hi, we have been getting great response from our liposomal glutathione here at MaxHealthLabs.
I will continue to be as neutral as possible about specific products. Well, as neutral as I can be about anything.
Anyway, sometimes comments contain information that might be of value. Let the reader decide, and work with a trusted professional.
will vitamin spray with glutathione works as good as other forms of gluta?
In our experience, topical formulations do not produce the same improvements as the oral liposomal product.
Topicals wont work as well because their dose is too low. Most sprays and topicals only deliver 5mg to 20mg at the very most. That is not enough. Make your own transdermal delivery system, and make sure it delivers 200mg to 500mg. That will work. It will take time and effort to find the right transdermal recipe. Just look up “dermal penetration enhancers” and start from there.
12 year experience with 5000+ patient’s positive response (>95%) to oral liposomal glutathione. What are your results?
If you’re trying to regenerate glutathione wouldn’t N acetyl cysteine or alpha lipoic acid be a better supplement?
1. Mainly, stopping the oxidation is the best strategy – find the source(s) of the inflammation and avoid or treat.
2. The immediate goal is to supply reduced gsh, which the product that I use seems to do (muscle tone improves within weeks).
3. It’s possible that the product is broken down by digestion, and the individual aa’s become available substrate.
4. By increasing the dose slowly, it is possible to control side effects (increased activity, any gut problems)
Is there a best way to engage you to know the product you use as well as weigh other supplement options? We have a very finky eater but he’ll drink things down OK, maybe put in his flavored Kefir. Of course we’re also concerned about casein.
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Hi, what form of GSH do you use? Can you recommend any brands in particular that you have found to be helpful in your treatment?
I have found liposomal glutathione from Wellness pharmacy to be the most effective in a protocol that includes gastrointestinal evaluation and proper treatment with high potency, multi-strain probiotics. Fungus or other underlying problems (that must be evaluated and properly treated) may often become exacerbated with this supplement. So, negative signs may actually provide a clue that something needs to be investigated.
Hi there, have you looked at RiboCeine as a delivery system for L-cystine? Studies show it elevates GSH production 3x over NAC. We found it helped our son immensely!
There are many products that claim superior delivery, absorption, tolerance, and the like. This blog is based on my experience using the tools that I find produce tangible results in the patient.
I just started GSH about three weld increading the doses until we reaches the 5 ml . But this week my son developed yeast infection . His penis was so sealken. I thought his gut was good because we were doing diet , bone broth and probioticos for over at year already . So I’ll have to suspend .
It is best to have the advise of a medmaps.org practitioner who can help with this issue.
Dear Dr.Udell,
I understand that we need to give probiotics along with liposomal glutathione to control yeast.
What is the dosage (both glutathione &probiotic) per day that you recommend for a 5 year old autistic boy?
Dear Dr.Udell, same question about dosage but for a two year old boy on the spectrum
1-5 cc every day usually does the trick, I never use more, usually less, and discontinue when 1) either the child gets too ‘stimmy’ or 2) demonstrates proper tone
Thanks for the reply I really need some assistance from you because I’m from the Caribbean can I get in contact with you
http://www.childdev.org
Or, speak with the Practice Administrator, Karen, at 9548738413
Thanks
Dear Dr Udell,
Can you kindly advise as to how I can give my 8-year-old son glutathione capsules? He cannot swallow a capsule. Can I empty its contents? The product I have is S-acetyl glutathione synergy capsules purchased from “Designs for Health”.
Thanks
Although I generally do not recommend ANY brands in this venue, we find that liposomal glutathione from Wellness pharmacy works best. What is in the capsule is the same product as the liquid, of which we recommend 1 tsp or 2 gelcap.
Hi Doc
What will be the proper dosage of the glutathione for a 4 yr 5mths autistic boy
We have been using 1 tsp = 433mg of Glutathione, working up slowly over 4-6 weeks.
Of course, this is not medical advice, and you may want to ask your pediatrician, if you are uncertain.
Hi, could you please explain the elbow lift test a bit more. Is the child holding their arms out and then you lift up, pushing their elbows? Thanks. BTW I have had miraculous results with liposomal glutathione, particularly for recovering from breathing problems with CovID19.
The expected reaction to an upward pull by the examiner who places his hands at the elbows of the child with the arms out is a downward push by the patient. I will be posting a video this week to assist.
Thank you.
Hello sir, just want to ask what is the dosage of glutathione for autistic 6 years old kid weighing 21 kg. how much mg per kilo per dose should we give? Is it enough to have L gluatamine prime as supplement or I really need to shift to reduced glutathione?
thank you
It’s complicated. I am successful because I go through an exhaustive process of evaluating the need and correcting gastrointestinal and other metabolic problems before giving a specific preparation, that seems to work in my practice.
Why not see a https://www.medmaps.org/clinician-directory/ for real professional help?
Hi,
Can I get this product in the UK for my daughter? Do you offer Consultations for UK residents?
Yes, the product is available.
We see patients at least ONE TIME in the office, so that we can be certain and precise about the diagnosis.